These are both very high quality. I don't typically leave reviews, but felt compelled to do so for these items. Let's start with the ice pack - I just had knee surgery and have to ice my knee 2-3 times a day. This is a convenient way for me to do that but still go about my day. This is the second type of knee wrap ice pack I've tried and the first (a popular grey and turquoise colored option on Amazon) has much flimsier velcro and constantly leaked through the inside as I wore it. This one is durable, no leakage, and very easy to find in my freezer due to its spunky yellow and blue colors.
So let's talk about the brace, this thing is very well made, once again it has the strong velcro, the stitching is flawless, I'm very impressed by this duo. It did take me a few try's to figure out how to put it on, but As I mentioned, I had surgery on one knee, but I'm actually gearing up to have surgery on the other one, so I've been wearing the brace on that one and it has definitely helped reduce some of the load on my kneecap (I have chrondomalacia - so having a brace that doesn't push down on the kneecap is very important).